Should You Go To College To Become A Photographer? The Truth About Photography

Jared Polin, And a question that I get all the time from
high school students is, “Should I go to college to become a photographer?” Now, this is a huge debate in this day and
age especially when a lot of people don’t think you need to go to college to have a
career in something you love. Now, the reason I bring this up is because
a reader sent in a message, a high school student sent in this email, and I am going
to paraphrase it and read some of it, you can see it on the screen right now. Okay, here it is, “Hi, Jared, my name is Allie
and I’m a junior in high school. Currently, my life is surrounded around college
and my future. Anyways, my parents are very supportive and
want me to go to school to do something I’m passionate about and that is photography. I am in my school’s yearbook as a photographer
and I would love to pursue a career in it and I was wondering where you want to see
what your journey was after high school so I can gain some perspective from a professional. Thanks, Allie.” So, Allie thank you very much for your question
and I know there’s a ton of people out there right now trying to figure out the same exact
thing. So, first I want to give kudos to your parents
to supporting or for supporting your passion as a photographer and wanting you to do something
that you are passionate about, that is great. Now, on to your questions, where did I go? I went to a two-year school called Antonelli
Institute for Photography in Erdenheim, PA, it is a smaller school, but it is a very good
school with great teachers, but is a two-year photography only school. Yes, they do have some business classes and
I know they are starting the shift into some video, but the question is should you go to
a two-year photography only school? And I’m finding it harder and harder these
days to say yes, you can learn a lot about photography not only from my website, but
from many other places online that would be far less expensive than going to college. Now, what’s good about going to a college
like Antonelli or a two-year school is that it’s straight up photography. You’re going to basically be paying to be
given assignments that you’re going to do. Now, these assignments are going to be all
over the board to help you get a well-rounded education so that when you do step out into
the world as a “Photographer” you are going to be more ready to take on any job that may
come your way. But in all honesty when I left college, the
college will say that they will place you or Antonelli has a placement department that’s
head up by a good friend who does a tremendous job to make sure that he can do his best to
make sure that you get to somewhere photo-related as a career, but they can’t guarantee that
and most of the jobs that are coming out of college that are being sent in to these colleges
to be placed they’re not the greatest things at all. So, when I left school I struggled for a long
time, I struggled to figure out what to do. I was on my own shooting, I was working at
a photo studio which I didn’t stay out long because I wanted to actually shoot and not
be stuck printing other people’s terrible photos. I wanted to be out in the world shooting. I did a lot of corporate jobs, I did weddings,
I shot for other people, but I will also say this that the majority of the people that
I graduated with I would say 95 to 98% of them never got anywhere in photography, so
maybe they tried for a couple of years and they failed, but they moved on to something
else. So, the majority of the people that go to
school for photography are not exiting the world and becoming photographers, it’s just
not that easy. So, I have some more notes right here is,
if I was to go do it again – there’s that debate you go to a four-year school and spend
the money or do you try to venture out on your own and invest in gear? It’s a tough decision, but if I was in your
shoes and you needed to go to college not needed, but you would like to go to school,
I would go to the largest most popular four-year school that you can get into because it’s
about connections, it’s about the alumni network, it’s about being able to graduate in four
years and have connections and opportunities with different businesses all around the world
from people that went to the college that you went to. Now, I wouldn’t go for a photo degree as a
masters or a badge or whatever it is, I would not go straight up for photography. I would go into business, branding, and marketing
with a minor in photography, with a minor in advertising, with – what else do I have
here business marketing, audio/video, anything that has to do with being creative that will
allow you to step out into the world and be able to take on multiple roles. There are not many jobs out there today for
strictly just photography, it’s not like the old days where we were like, “Yeah, I’m going
to work for a newspaper.” Newspapers aren’t paying, that’s not a viable
job as a photographer anymore because you just can’t make money and if anybody tells
you that is not all about money, well they’re probably not making any. It is important that you at least make some
money that you can sustain yourself, you can always do the passion project, but if you’re
looking for career and you don’t want to live in your parent’s basement for the rest of
your life you’re going to need to find a way to be successful. And that is being a photographer of videographer
understanding how to edit video, edit photos, understand audio, know little bit about branding
and marketing and business so that you can step into any business out there in the world
and be a creative that can bring more than just photography to the table. I’ll say this about VaynerMedia, the Gary
Vaynerchuk’s company they put out a job posting a couple years ago that if I wasn’t in this
business right now that would’ve been my job out of college. They were looking for somebody who was a photographer,
but could set up video shoots and photo shoots and handle working with a client. They’re looking for people that do more than
just take pictures, but they are creative, they can be well-rounded in multiple different
levels of things that you can go out there to do. So, those are the dilemmas, those are the
things it that I highly suggest doing. I think you can go to a four-year school why
do I say a four-year school that’s the largest out there? Because they have the most activities for
you to participate in, say it’s Penn State University, that’s a huge school or Ohio State. Any of these large schools have athletics
departments, huge academic departments where there so many different extracurricular activities
you can participate in, but with the sports, you’ve got the football teams, the basketball
teams, lacrosse teams, the women’s volleyball, the swimming, the track and field, the softball
and baseball and chess, and political things. There are so many different opportunities
for you to take photographs in a huge school that it doesn’t matter if you’re into sports
or you are in the academics or you are into other clubs there are things and you can go
out there and capture and learn. So, take the photography classes, but also
get involved with anything photo-related, call the president of the school and so you
want to do a photo shoot with them, do a project photographing all the professors, doing video
of the professors, getting their opinions and capturing that for a project. Just do it, you pay to go to these schools
so use that to your advantage, you ask for things because you’re paying the school to
allow you to do that stuff, so take advantage of all of that that you have in front of you. That’s why I think a big four-year school
is a great place to go to not only get the education, but to get the alumni, it’s all
about networking, the people you meet today are the people that are going to help you
in business in the future. And all of the alumni associations that have
been there for a hundred years or more at different schools they’re going to help you
find jobs and get a jump start somewhere. I know this is long winded, but that’s the
thing, I don’t know that a two-year straight up photography school makes much sense anymore,
you need to be more well-rounded going out into the world today. So, I’m not discouraging you from going and
pursuing photography, I’m encouraging you to take the photography, but do all of those
other things that I mentioned to make yourself more well-rounded so that you can either start
your own business or walk into another business through an alumni association contact or you
just can go apply for a job because your super well-rounded, it’s a starting point to get
out there into the world. So, is it worth it to go to college to become
a photographer? I will say no if all you’re looking to do
is just take pictures, I honestly don’t think that’s a viable path for anybody, but I will
say yes it’s viable if photography is a subset of the things that you’re going to go do when
you get into college. There’s a whole other thing out there that
says take the money that you’d have spent on college and try to start a business, that
is something that you can do, but I will say there’s a lot of grants, there’s a lot of
scholarships, there’s a lot of opportunities for free money out there regardless of who
you are that you can get that’s going to cut down on the bills that you have to pay to
go to college. And just to throw a monkey wrench in there
there’s also the option to not even go to college to find a business that will hire
you or to allow you to be an apprentice or just a tagger along to hopefully learn in
the real world to get real-world experience instead of spending all that money on school. Now, you may not get paid a lot or you may
not get paid at all to get a job with someplace that will take you in and then allow you to
be their apprentice to learn. There’s probably not a lot of opportunities
out there for that, but if you want to skip school altogether because somebody is going
to give you the opportunity to get real-world experience, well I would possibly look in
that direction for what to do after high school. Now, it’s more risky, but it could have a
lot of upsides and a lot of rewards, it’s one of those things where if it’s something
that you want you will find a way to get it. Now, it’s not to be easy, but think about
it real-world experience that you don’t have to pay to get, but you are actually not sitting
there in a school classroom doing this you are on the job getting real-world training
that will pay dividends in the long run. So, those are the two alternatives, I know
this is long winded, you could skip school, you can go out on your own, you could become
an apprentice, you could go to a four-year school, you can go to a two-year school, it’s
all over the place, but those are some of my suggestions. What do you guys think? Leave a comment down below, I look forward
to hearing what you guys have to say and that is where I’ll leave it. Don’t forget to subscribe here on YouTube
Jared Polin See you. Subscribe now. Watch this, watch this video.

100 Replies to “Should You Go To College To Become A Photographer? The Truth About Photography”

  1. Technical diploma at a 2 year school in entrepreneurship. Take courses in accounting and marketing.
    Then enroll in the University of Youtube like I did and you'll be just fine 🙂

  2. Thanks Jared. I have a nephew asking and thinking about this very question. I'm sending them the link to this video.

  3. As far as going to college, I took a business program and did my plan B job in the medical field and now learning photography is a passion that I do outside work. I know how to run and promote a business, I just don't feel like dealing with people when it comes to family/babies/wedding photography, and it just seems like so many people in my area are doing that. I prefer pets, nature, landscape, or real estate. I don't forsee myself making a living off of it.

  4. Well as someone who did get a BA in photography during the 80s, I as "VERY" lucky to land the job(s) that I was aiming for. However if I could go back, Jared's advice is sound, go for a degree in business, advertising, ect…and minor in photography. A degree in photography simply does not have the cache it once did. While I am still a working shooter, however like many cough…cough…."artists", I lacked the most basic business skills (despite coming from a family of bankers and accountants) and had that smug, elitist mindset…"I am an ARTIST". That way of thinking will shut down any hopes of a successful freelance career in any creative endeavour .

  5. From someone with a bachelor in fine arts (because graphic design didn't exist in paper here so it was mixed with easel graphics) go for it.
    We were taught to use film as well, analogue cameras and developing in old school dark rooms was kick a$$

  6. It is so much more important to do what you love than to focus on the money aspect. I know plenty of people who make a ton of money and are not happy or content. You are so wrong when you say that it is about money and that if someone disagrees, they don't make enough. Very disappointed in this approach…thought you were better than that.

  7. I recently went to community college at Clayton State University for Digital Photography and receive college credits
    because I don`t go to college full time or four years . Also , I don`t have time or money to go to college full time . I used to take photos for a youth department at my church in Georgia and never took photography lessons neither classes . Now , I love photography and doing free lance photography !

  8. I taught college level photography at a two year school, I realize that the cost is a huge factor but if you pick the right school you will leave with more knowledge and understanding than you will in 10+ years of youtube searches and trial and error. Not to mention the need to weed through all the garbage teaching on youtube. Jared is a great teacher but trust me, there are some very popular "experts" that are teaching things that are just not right.

  9. I just finished my Fine Art photography degree and I will commit the rest of my life to informing others how to avoid making the same mistake I did.. I literally graduated with a person who didn't know what the exposure triangle was or a prime lens and never took her camera out of Auto. The price of 1 semester could have bought 2 profotos, a 1200.00 lens and 6 months of studio space. Watch Ted Forbes and Matt Day videos instead, They'll teach you all you need to know. The only great thing about art school is critiques, access to good printers and a good professor or two, if you're lucky

  10. I get four years of education for free whether that be college or uni thanks to being scottish. School isn't for me so I'm not going to uni but i'm going to college next year, though if i were confident tbh i'd go straight into work like waitressing so i can travel (budget). I think I'll settle for going to college next year for photography. After that I could finish school or take a business course for eg and i'd still have two more years which i could get for eg hairdressing which would help for travelling too. this video inspired me lots. Thankyou!

  11. What a common sense posting. Stressing the business aspect and diversity arer surely the most important things in photography schooling. I am glad that you stressed this. Great video!

  12. In a year from now i will have a choice to stay in school or go to college i want to do art/photography and other creative jobs bùt my perents say ihave no choice but to stay in school but with the stuff i wanna do people around me say its better to go to college sating its better on the subjects i wanna do HELP ME i need a way to purswade my perents to go to college if i go collage they are saying i have no choice but im not sure if i should stay in school or go HELP ME?

  13. I believe any young person going out into the world should if possible go to a 4-year business program. There is a lot collage offers young people. Photographers need the basic in business law, psychology, accounting, and stats. They must also be prepared to not work in the field maybe starting out just being a photographer on week ends. Short term not going to collage may seem easier but in the long run collage grads do better. All you young people if at all possible go to collage you have a long life to live.

  14. Jared, I believe you gave Allie a treasure trove of information and as such may have saved her from making a mistake in her decision making process. As for me I am about as amateur as one can be, I have always loved art especially photography, and have dabbled in it for over 40 plus years; but I had to support a family and that came first. So I did 20 years in the military and then 15 more years in the lumber and plywood wholesale business, during that time I did not realize the connections I was making during that 35 years, which leads me to today November 27, 2017. It has been one year and 7 days since losing my wife to a long illness, one of the last things she gave me was a Canon t51 for Christmas in 2015, which sparked my interest again; but still my wife was my greatest concern and responsibility. Since November 2016 things have changed and I find I have more time on my hands and have such taken up photography again, recently purchasing a Canon 7D Mark II. While on YouTube and needing help understanding my new camera I found you and your Fro Knows Photos series. Thank you for being there, but the biggest reason for writing is that Allie does need to get as many connections as she can, I didn't realize as I said earlier how many connection I have made through the years, many of my soldiers have gone on to become an Assistant Dean at a major university, another is a Professor of Nursing, while another is the Head of Veterans Services on the West Coast. Many others have gone of to their various fields and become successful, and I am sure if I needed help in finding work doing something they would help out, so Allie go to school and make all the connections you can, I waited 47 years to become a photographer (well right now really a shutter clicker) but I would not trade those 47 years for anything, as they made me who I am and in the process made connections for my newly regained passion of photography. Sometimes things just take time.

  15. Nothing wrong with going to a tech school. They have time but… start shooting now and study online courses or at least watch YouTub and of course Jareds studies. But also study finance or business. Try to intern now with an advertising agency or professional photographer. Do it for free to gain experience. Learn to budget your money. You can do this…

  16. Oh really so the only way to learn is to go to college and spend tens of thousands of dollars on tuition and years of time because people say photography, flash photography, DSLR Video, and Video editing are so complicated?!

  17. Hey Jared,
    Must I go to college and spend tens of thousands of dollars on tuition and years of my time, OR are the FroKnowsPhoto video guides a better way to learn in a matter of days? What are the differences between college and educational guides?

  18. Jared is 110% correct. However, you don't need to necessarily go to a large school. If money is an issue, start at a community college and transfer to a state university. You'll still have plenty of opportunities. Also, even if photojournalism doesn't interest you, do some work for a your school newspaper. And like he mentioned, there's so many great events to photograph on literally any campus.

  19. Hi Jared, I completely agree with you about photography degrees. I got a degree in photography and I did not get anything out of it photography wise. I think I gained a better understanding of the history of photography and how to look at photography with a critical eye. Not just aesthetic but in a social context kind of way. Now I don’t do photography professional but I do something that I love with aviation instead. Thanks for your videos, they are excellent!

  20. That is the truth about the real advantages of higher education! I wish someone told me this back in 2009, but I learned it the hard way, on my own, like 7 years after.

  21. I've been learning photography at YTU in my spare time and at my own pace without spending money. My photography game has increased a 1000% in just one year. Thanks YouTube University!!

  22. I also think if you enjoy book learning and studying the theory of photography then doing it in an academic setting allows you to do that. Will it help a professional photographer? Maybe not but if personally you enjoy that type of study then you can get that. Just make sure you don't put yourself in a financial hole by doing that.

  23. Jared, i have been binging on your videos for the past few hours while editing some projects of mine. I just came about your channel and I wanted to say THANK YOU for all of your amazing content! I'm new to the professional photography world and throughout this entire video, i find myself saying "Yes, Yes, and Yes!" I've been out of college for 2 years with a fine arts degree in my pocket and it's been rough advancing in the field BUT your video's are reaffirming my thought process that networking is king, business savvy is important, being a people person is key, all that stuff! You're awesome man, Thanks for everything!

  24. Hlo i want to become a photographer for that did i want to study digree or not ??? Plzzz reply bro i beg u

  25. What way do you suggest to me as a 31 years old who had worked not seriously till now about photography and i dont have enough self confidance about making business. Im affraid of self employee. Whats ur advice. Whould be effective to apply for universities or collages or just work for others.

  26. Hey Annie the one thing that I would caution you with is that when choosing a four year school look for a creative program that is on content creation you are passionate about I tried to go to a school program as a design major and struggled a lot with areas I wasn't interested in such as sculpting and 3d non computer related media I am currently getting assosiates degrees in photography and video production and am much happier. Know also that if you decide a 2 year photography program is for you that many jobs require photo or video experience, or both, allong with a 4 year degree regardless of what its in. So that being said I agree with Jared that a 4 year school is best just don't bog yourself down with creative course work you don't want. Instead go for Business and get your photography studies along the way. Photography and Videography change so much in software and equipment that coursework gives a really solid base but you will be doing outside reaserch to maintain you competency.

  27. One last point the thing I get most out of the schooling is someone to constructivly critique what I'm creating and help me learn from mistakes I didn't know I was making. It helps step your game up very quickly from good to great.

  28. Jared, Excellent advice. In fact, it was some of the best career advice I've seen. Some additional advice I was given 40-years ago: Volunteer with a non-profit as their photographer (for me, it was marketing and PR roles). I might also suggest to some is to consider two-year community college as a more affordable place to help carve out a path to the future before transferring to a four-year university. I did both and it helped me get my dream job when I graduated from USC, leading to a unbelievable 40-year career in marketing.

  29. I would suggest that she looks into Architecture, it sounds like a far off from picture taking but it will have the same skills if not more when it comes to art side of the photos and math.

    It will also help with structuring your portfolio, if anything… they can always use that degree to hhave a job while they are pursuing their passion through less expensive means even if it means that you won't be able to have it transfer to a job in a business beyond contracts to you.

    I'm learning to be a photographer the free way, using websites, reading books, challenging myself, failing and moving on from failures when I learn from them, many people would charge for things but don't get upset when people charge for absolute beginners but offer courses on how to use lightroom for free, because they need to earn money… but I'm not saying you have to pay them, you in your own right can google how to do things.

  30. Hello Jared and fellow Philadelphian! I'm wondering if you'd suggest either Philadelphia Photo Arts Center or CCP?

  31. Do I ever require a degree for shooting some pictures of very good wildlife;select some of those best picture and sell them to make some pocket money as 21 year guy doing some other job already?

  32. Always choose go to college. If you don't make it as a photographer, you'll be able to pay your bills by doing something else.

  33. Great advice. I went to photography school and I am glad that I did but that really only wet my mouth to photography — Most of everything I learned was on the job. But I guess that is the same way with many other careers too…….

  34. You’re a good dude Jared. Had respect for you before but your well thought out advice here took it to the next level. Very sound advice! 🙂

  35. Some of the best life advice I have seen on YouTube right here. I went to college twice, separated by 30 years. I failed on the first attempt for numerous reasons. Everything Fro mentions here is solid advice, building networks and contacts, molding yourself for what is available and paying, learning more than just your intended goal but tie into it. Having skills and knowledge that employers are seeking cannot be overstated. Being one dimensional in a field that is heavily over saturated will pretty much guarantee failure as mentioned in Fro's video. Whether or not you go to school or learn on your own will be determined by how much of a self starter you are, this is where a person must be brutally honest with themselves. Can you self start and learn what you need or do you need a course handed to you each day. Most of all, do not give up, even if it takes 30 years.

  36. I went to college for filmmaking and ended up dropping out as I ended up learning more on youtube and through, the only good thing that came out of film school was getting some on set experience. Now a days I'm doing photography nearly daily and learned how to properly use my camera (5D Mark II) while just taking photo's, basically just go and shoot and learn with experience rather than just go to school.

  37. So..
    1. Going to a photography college, won't guarantee a career (of course)
    2. If you go to school, go to one that's popular and has courses that take lots of time to finish, so you can get experience
    3. Make connections
    4. Don't just expect your school to provide the skills. Practice on your own.
    5. You don't gotta go to school. Get an internship in a job, so they can teach you (plus real world experience), or gather some money to buy gear and teach youself.

  38. I live less than 15 minutes from one of the best photography programs in the US … It's almost stupid of me to not go, but they only offer a full day degree… I can only do night/online because I work full time… They do offer a few outsourced online classes which have really helped and having a certificate on the wall that says "RCC", really does help me with locals.

  39. Do not go to college to be a photographer. Don't go to college for most trades but definitely not photo. I have a AAS & BFA in photography from FIT and even with all those connections and getting 4 years to shoot a portfolio I think maybe 2 of the 14 kids in my graduating class actually work as a photographer.

    Everything I learned was completely outdated by the time I graduated because tech changes so quickly these days. It's true that most photo students don't actually do photo. Maybe 5 of us worked at a photo studio and assisted for a few years before giving up.

    It is also true that you need to go to a well-known school but I would say you need to go to a well-known art school because the only reason I ever even got interviews with certain photographers and studios was because I was coming from FIT. Also you need the four years to create a book before you graduate and not be wasting time taking English Lit or 19th-century American History.

    If I could do it again I would have done things very differently and taken it much more seriously than I did when I was doing it. If you want a job or take money in the photo industry you should mainly focus on digital tech. All the jobs are for digital techs and retouchers. I mean unless you want to be a wedding photographer or do Christmas photos.

  40. I say go into porn to make money and enjoy photography on the side. That is if you’re hot, of course. Your parents should be supportive.

  41. sorry, i went through job placement programs, they don't place you shit, they pretty much say, here's your certification, here's a job site, good luck

  42. Horrible advice! Honestly, DO NOT even go to school for 4 years and get in debt for something that is useless. My advice: Get a certification and that is it! Learn just the basic of photography.

  43. I went to college to study history, but I minored in communication. Thats where I took photography classes. I learned to shoot film first (Minolta SR T-102). I learned the basics there and then just kept going and moved to digital. I have few clients but I have another job that pays the bill. Photography is an art source for me. 🙂 I love it. I suggest get the basics and then keep on learning outside the class.

  44. LOL you don't need a college education to be a photographer. Use the internet to LEARN how to take good photos and how to market your business.

  45. Great info. It's EXACTLY the same info I've given my grandson. He was a photographer in his high school and shot sports and other school-related events. He's a Nikon guy (which I thought might bring a smirk to your face). Anyway, he missed an opportunity to intern with the Miami Dolphins because of his lack of transportation at the time. He's got a good eye and loves being the "observer" and "storyteller." I've sent him a link to this video and hope he takes the time to view it. Thanks, again for what I strongly believe is VERY practical advice.

  46. I was thinking about going to a art college, that certain one also pushes everyone into internships with galleries, photography studios, and magazines. Also a good way to work on your portfolio, and great connections with the designers of the college is great, specifically fashion designers

  47. I am self-taught. It is a hobby. I’m not a professional and I would never do photography for money. I have mostly learned on YouTube. I’ve been watching videos almost daily for years and I just keep learning more and more.

  48. I wish I had a video like this back in 2013. Because I went into College thinking I was going to do graphic design, and then changed it to art education, and then landed in the history department. But that was because I was running out of time. I’m now realizing my error and wanting to get into photography. But I’ve already gotten a degree. And for me to go back would be a pain. I’ve been shooting since High School. I wish I had this advice.

  49. you just need to be passionate for your work College degree will not work YouTube university is the best

  50. Ever since I got my new mirrorless camera after stepping my game in photography from a point and shoot. I’ve been shooting in RAW AND M Mode and I’m proud of myself ?

  51. Thank you so much for discussing this. I had the same question in my mind because I just started to love photography for 2 years now and was looking forward to improve and learn more. But now I see that there are many other things that I could study apart from that if I want to be working by myself. Great video and again thanks a lot for your honest opinion.

  52. I felt it when you said the majority of people who go to school for photography but don't actually become photographers. I went to school for 2 yrs and got an associates in graphic design. 10 yrs later and I have had ZERO jobs in the graphic design field. I only went because my dad felt that I was good and not because it was something I wanted to do. I've been into art and I am an art person but I love photography and I too want to make that a career for myself. However, I will not pay thousands for schooling when I can learn on YouTube for free

  53. Im taking a professional course of multimedia that includes sound, marketing, photography, 3D Animations, 2D animation, vídeo, etc. I think thats the neste way, it gets you into everything you need to be a photogtapher

  54. So I do breaking news video as a freelance photojournalist. I have no official training in this field.
    Before breaking news, I was doing freelance photography covering mostly the military. I was very fortunate to be published in newspapers and magazines. After realizing after 5 years that there no real $$$ in photography, I switched to video and breaking news.

    There is a local news channel videojournalist who doesn’t like freelancers and called me a hobbyist..

    She also would tell me that she went to a 4 year college for her degree in journalism and was better that I was.

    I finally told her how amazing it was that she went to college to learn how to you a video camera. After all, she was making about $40,000/ year. She just smiled at me until…..

    I then informed her that as a freelance, I made approximately $125,000 last year and sell to all of the locals, all of the major regional channels, and the Nationals like CNN, ABC, Fox, etc. on the bigger stories, all without going to a 4 year college.

    She just walked away all butt hurt.

  55. I have been doing photography on a part-time basis from school.I have a degree in Engineering (electronics), My passion for engineering has died over 10 years and but it kept my family alive. However, my passion for photography never abated.. At the age of 60 I decided to do something for myself and entered an online two year masters in Photography course. My purpose is different and I am enjoying every moment of it. I did udemy and coursera (MOMA is excelent) courses and found them to be very cost-effective but the interaction with peers focusing on photography, being able to share work experience and doing your own project and projects with other is taking my photography to another level. My post graduate degree is expensive and I do sometimes wonder if I should have spent the money on travel and cameras… but when I engage fully I am discovering that photography has more potential than making money from wedding photography. Jarid talks about getting to know peers. I am studying in England from South Africa the opportunity is opening up global opportunities, intellectual and personal growth and taking off blinders that the social media is putting on us. If photography is truly you passion I would like Jared to do a general degree that include Photography and film , and if you still want to specialise do par tiem t post graduate courses after being involved in your photographic practice. I believe that I made an success as a part-tie photographer, Full time IT architect , but it is photography that is making me significant and my education is helping me. thanks Jarid. time for an update on this subject.

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